ext_6505 ([identity profile] kynn.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] maevele 2009-08-14 09:36 pm (UTC)

Re: Trans lady thinks anyone that disagrees with her on anything is The Enemy.

You're recalling it wrong, because I didn't apologize at all. In fact, I said that I knew from the beginning that you're a black woman, because I clicked through on your profiles.

The thread certainly didn't end with me apologizing.

So let me see, though:

Really, I recall that conversation ending with you apologizing after someone pointed out as a BLACK woman I might have some small idea of what it's like the fear the police.

Oh, so basically you're saying that as a black person, you might have insights into racism that I, as a white person, lack.

Which is sensible.

And yet you say that when I, as a trans person, discuss cissexism and transphobia -- and say that trans people have a better understanding of it than cis people, blinded by their own cis privilege -- you call that "bigotry" from me.

By this post, you're admitting that, yeah, sometimes the identity of the person speaking may very well make a difference. Even though in other places you accuse me of bigotry for using the very same principle.

Since you'll argue that you're not doing this, because you're stupid, let me show you exactly what's happening here.

Look at your statement here:

But noooooo...since I'm cis I have no idea what it's like NOT to have the police on my side. Therefore my opinions on the whole situation must come from a place of privilege and therefore be completely invalid.

So let's pretend that you and I are arguing about something -- say, POC trans women getting the police called on them -- and I assume you're white. (I didn't, but let's pretend.) And you say, "[some stuff]", and I say "that's wrong and messed up, whitey."

If you then say "ah, but I'm not white! I'm black!" does that make what you said suddenly valid? According to what you wrote above -- i.e., your views on the police are valid because you are black -- the validity of your statements are enhanced due to your race.

And this isn't something I argue against; I do accept that. I certainly have white privilege, and it seriously limits my understanding of racism. However, when trans people say that they understand cis privilege better than trans people, you cry BIGOTRY repeatedly.

You are a hypocrite, and you're stupid.

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