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maevele ([personal profile] maevele) wrote2009-08-14 03:46 am

damn. from voz


Is Cis A Dis? And other air castles to storm… « FemmEssay

a cis feminist making a damn strong point about cis privilege.
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[personal profile] guiltyred 2009-08-14 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for linking this.

[identity profile] lady-alyria.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
Julian Morrison Said:

Cis isn’t offensive. It’s a chemistry term for “on the same side” and opposed to the chemistry term trans, “on opposite sides”. It’s use for people is a non-insulting metaphor and a pun extending from the pre-existing use of “trans”. So basically, anyone getting het up about it is demanding to own the unlabeled default. They don’t want to be treated equally to trans people, they want to be the “normal” ones. Well at that point, there’s nothing more to say except “no”.


His comment was exactly what I was thinking on the subject and very well put.

Thanks for the repost.

[identity profile] voz-latina.livejournal.com 2009-08-14 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
The point she makes is an excellent one, but people are listening precisely because she is cis.

I had been saying the same damn thing for a long time along with many many other trans women, but, let's face it, cis voices carry farther and are taken more seriously than trans women's voices. This is why you see so many copies of this post floating around, and none of mine ;-)

People who deny it's existence usually have a rather distorted idea of what "privilege" really means.

Privilege is about what one DOES NOT have, and most misinformed folks think it is about what one DOES have.

Cis privilege is being able to take a shit in a public restroom without a court battle or a beatdown by the cops...or having to worry about it.

etc etc

Cis privilege is about a cis person stomping into a space and denying that it exists, or declaring that his/her experience trumps those who actually live this shit, rather than pontificate abstractly on an Internet forum.

Not having to fight every shithead from here to Lampansas for the right to describe yourself without interference is cis privilege.

I could go on, of course, but the article was pretty damn plain for anybody with open eyes.
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[identity profile] maeveenroute.livejournal.com 2009-08-15 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
FYI, the blog itself has been taken down. I've copied the post, though, so if you want it for quoting purposes, lemme know. [Although I agree that the stuff about Autumn - and some of the comments afterwards - took the bloom off the rose a little, the gun analogy was powerfully written, and I'd like to be able to float it around, properly attributed, from time to time. Especially because my cis gay male boss is a jackass.]

Also, I was M.E. over there. ;c)