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[maevele]

Is Cis A Dis? And other air castles to storm… « FemmEssay

a cis feminist making a damn strong point about cis privilege.

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Hard words are often necessary ones..

[voz-latina.livejournal.com]

and it helps to have a privileged voice carry them.

Re: Hard words are often necessary ones..

[maevele.livejournal.com]

One of the privileges I think people don't think much about, is the privilege of just being heard.

ayup

[voz-latina.livejournal.com]

that's why I did the flawed maneuver of invoking a cis voice to say what trans women had said 1000000 times before.

Kynn makes alot of sense below. really. i knew this, and did it anyway, because, cis people are reliably stupid about trans women. Always.

For us, it's the cost of doing any business with you.

Re: Hard words are often necessary ones..

[maeveenroute.livejournal.com]

Hard words are often necessary ones..
and it helps to have a privileged voice carry them.

Yeah, I'm honestly pretty ambivalent about having played "cis chick explains it all" on that thread, but once the OP started talking more about Oliver's tone than his argument, it seemed like it was going nowhere fast. :c/

But hell, this is coming from the one who had to tell my boss that paying the cis chick to co-facilitate the campus "trans people and allies" group and not paying the trans guy was seven kinds of fucked up. Because when the trans guy said it, he was just being greedy. So I should be used to saying obvious things to stupid people, even though they should have heard them the first hundred times, when the right people said them more eloquently and from personal experience.

Sorry. I'm vomiting my irritation all over this thread, and I probably shouldn't be, but I'm coming off a migraine (partially Femmessay induced) and having trouble thinking of a more coherent way to put this.

Bottom line, privilege is a signal-booster, and while it disgusts me that it should be necessary to use it that way, I feel like cis people who are capable of doing so non-stupidly have an obligation to amplify the message where needed.

(We also have an obligation to shut up and realize when it's being broadcast load and clear without our help, which takes more work, at least for me.)

Re: Hard words are often necessary ones..

[voz-latina.livejournal.com]

Well, you have seen my posts on microwave lenses, haven't you?

If there's one thing I know, it's how and when to bust out the high gain equipment. Not getting myself nuked by the sidelobes is a lil harder.

Anyway, woman is engaging the trans men and not the trans women, for all the stupid, usual reasons.

Yeahs...who the fuck is your boss, and what is her major malfunction, anyway?

Re: Hard words are often necessary ones..

[maeveenroute.livejournal.com]

Well, you have seen my posts on microwave lenses, haven't you?

Don't think I've gotten that far in the archives yet. Too busy savoring the image of gloves+heels+skirt+lathe. ;c) (And popping Darvocet, instead of going to bed and stopping staring at the screen like a smart person.)

Re: Hard words are often necessary ones..

[voz-latina.livejournal.com]

smiles...I will definitely post piccys.

Re: Hard words are often necessary ones..

[maeveenroute.livejournal.com]

Oh! You meant *literal* microwave lenses. Well, hot damn.

Also, I missed this the first time around:

who the fuck is your boss, and what is her major malfunction, anyway?

... but I expect by now you won't be wanting the list. ;c)

[This, btw, is Boss 1. Boss 2 is Deaf Professor Lady, who is a total rockstar.]