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a cis feminist making a damn strong point about cis privilege.

Date: 2009-08-14 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-alyria.livejournal.com
Even if you did something full of white privilege I still wouldn't say something like that to you. I don't blame you for being white, I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with being white, so why would I use it as a derogatory term?

I have more respect for you than that, and I would hope that giving you reasons I thought you were exercising white privilege would make you re-examine whatever you were doing in a new light.

Like when half my friend's list couldn't see what was racist about the comic where the police officers shot the monkey. I didn't go, CHECK YOUR WHITE PRIVILEGE YA WHITE MCWHITTIES! I explained why *I* thought it was racist, and realized people with entirely different life experiences than my own might see it different. Some of my friends got what I was saying and agreed it was racist. Some still didn't agree. I didn't demand they agree because I'm black and they are white and I'm the expert on what's racist and what isn't. I didn't think they were stupid. I just figured they didn't/couldn't see things the same way I did regarding that particular instance and moved on.

Have you noticed that every time you attempt to translate these issues into race ones to enlighten me it never works? My thought process is consistent if not popular with the far left.

Date: 2009-08-14 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kynn.livejournal.com
Yes, your thought processes are consistently stupid.

[livejournal.com profile] maevele, why's this person your friend? You're usually a better judge of character.

Date: 2009-08-14 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-alyria.livejournal.com
Yes. Brow beat her into defriending me. That's always the next step with you. If you can't silence me with insults, silence me by getting me kicked off her LJ. Don't forget to give [livejournal.com profile] shemale a talking to too, she for some strange reason sees value in me as a human being also.

Date: 2009-08-14 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kynn.livejournal.com
Yeah, I've got so much power.

Date: 2009-08-14 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maevele.livejournal.com
Someone's presence on my friendslist does not in any way imply an endorsement of their views, only that they say things i want to read for some reason. I'm pretty sure I added her originally for bein clever in Stupid Free, and I don't defriend people because I disagree with them, unless they are hopeless fucknuts.


I even give some people i think are hopeless fucknuts a bunch of chances, in case they get it eventually. I mean, I dropped shtrly et al, but have kept people more, um, problematic than Alyria has ever been.

I'm only going to be on sporadically, if at all, until next wednesday, so I won't be able to tell if this gets out of hand and make up a moderation policy to deal with it, so y'all fight amongst yerselves. nobody stab anybody.

Date: 2009-08-14 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kynn.livejournal.com
I'll just stop interacting for now.

And no, I don't mean ZOMG U MUST SHUN THIS PERSON. Despite her paranoia otherwise.

Date: 2009-08-14 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maevele.livejournal.com
but it's still not derogatory in that usage, just a reminder. just a 'hey, yr speaking from privileged position' imo. It totally shouldn't be anyone else's job to point out the details of how I'm being privileged, if they've already done me the favor of pointing out I am speaking from privilege.


Date: 2009-08-15 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-alyria.livejournal.com
That's because you are a far more lenient person than I. "You should know what you did" argument is for 1950s housewives. If I'm spending time around someone, I'm working on the assumption that they aren't out to hurt me, so if they do, I'm going to guess it's by mistake, and they aren't aware of it.

I don't think as a black person it's my job to educate white people about racism. But if they are part of my circle either they are worth my time, or they shouldn't be part of my circle anymore.

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