I finally

Sep. 15th, 2010 03:43 pm
maevele: (adamdegrassi)
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worked up the strength to try to read the post by elizabeth moon everyone is talking about, and I feel sick. I'm horrified that this is coming from one of next wiscon's guests of honor. I honestly could puke.

Date: 2010-09-15 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onceupon.livejournal.com
Holy shit, what a pile of.... I don't even know. What the hell, Moon?

A friend of mine in her 40s has this generational theory of internet usage - that it just isn't integrated into her life enough for it to ever occur to her to look up writers she likes on the internet. I kind of envy her that right now.

ETA: OF COURSE Will Shetterly is in the comments. OF COURSE.
Edited Date: 2010-09-15 09:23 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-09-15 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pnkrokhockeymom.livejournal.com
Yes, but the comments I saw by him are generally spot on; I may have missed some of them because I was trying to avoid that other larger asshole spouting right wing talking points and asserting that if you want to fight for women's rights you should set up a clinic in Saudi Arabia....

But if Will Shetterly is calling you out on your assholery and bigotry and he's got the better of you, what the fucking fuck.

It's like I'm in some other universe.

Date: 2010-09-15 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onceupon.livejournal.com
I can't even imagine. This means I'm going to have to voluntarily read his comments, omg.

And, yeah, this is... this is like Orin Hatch defending the religious freedom of Muslims. It's like we live in crazy opposite world.

Date: 2010-09-15 09:44 pm (UTC)
ext_7899: the tenth doctor stands alone (I see what you did there: Ten)
From: [identity profile] rhipowered.livejournal.com
Yeah, the fact that what he's saying is pretty well on target illuminates the massive fucked up here. WHAT THE SHIT.

Date: 2010-09-15 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onceupon.livejournal.com
When Shetterly is your canary in a mineshaft, the world has turned on its ear.

Date: 2010-09-15 10:22 pm (UTC)
ext_7899: the tenth doctor stands alone (Default)
From: [identity profile] rhipowered.livejournal.com
I then felt the need to tell her that.

And to point out that they do the kind of shit she's advocating in Europe, and call it progressive too, but no one is fucking fooled by it; scratch the surface and it's still bigotry.

Date: 2010-09-15 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onceupon.livejournal.com
I can't deal with that guy going on in the Shetterly thread about how you can't use West Africa as an example and how Nigerians are dumb. I am not a person who trolls! I don't know what has come over me.

Date: 2010-09-16 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meleth.livejournal.com
"Yes, but the actions of those Christians don't count because there are a lot of Muslims there too!"

Date: 2010-09-17 05:34 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] vito-excalibur.livejournal.com
He's not a canary in the mineshaft! He's like a mole in a mineshaft! WHEN YOUR MOLE HAS GIVEN UP THE GHOST AND IS ALL "ACK...AIR PLEASE!" YOU HAVE PROBLEMS.

Date: 2010-09-15 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maevele.livejournal.com
your venn diagram pleased me muchly

Date: 2010-09-15 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onceupon.livejournal.com
I'm so glad I saved it. I had a terrible feeling it would come in handy some day.

Date: 2010-09-16 01:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
Yes, when I went back and read the comments I found it. AWESOME.

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