I finally

Sep. 15th, 2010 03:43 pm
maevele: (adamdegrassi)
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worked up the strength to try to read the post by elizabeth moon everyone is talking about, and I feel sick. I'm horrified that this is coming from one of next wiscon's guests of honor. I honestly could puke.

Date: 2010-09-15 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pnkrokhockeymom.livejournal.com
So much exactly that.

And then some of the fucking COMMENTS.

Date: 2010-09-15 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meleth.livejournal.com
Many Mexicans, on the other hand, and later, Central Americans, retained a strong connection to their former homes, visiting back and forth with relatives there. Thus it was possible for them to stay connected in a way that overseas immigrants rarely did, and difficult to commit fully to their new home. We all do what's easy, if we don't think about it...we stay with the familiar. But if a diverse community is to be a community, and not a geographically bounded group of competing cliques, we all have to think about it.

SPEAK ENGLISH, YOU ARE MAKING ME UNCOMFORTABLEDAMAGING THE MORAL FABRIC OF OUR SOCIETY.

Date: 2010-09-15 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onceupon.livejournal.com
BECAUSE IMMIGRANTS FROM ALL OVER ASIA AND EUROPE HAVE NOT DONE THE SAME THING.

*head continues to explode*

Surely all the Americans who speak Polish and Chinese and Italian and WHATEVER THE HELL are doing something completely different.

Date: 2010-09-15 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meleth.livejournal.com
Apparently, they're only doing it on Saturday, and getting eyelid surgery like any responsible citizen.

Date: 2010-09-18 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinker.livejournal.com
It's still not good enough, you know. Doing it on Saturday is evidence of just faking it the rest of the week.

Date: 2010-09-15 10:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-09-15 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maevele.livejournal.com
the way she is defending it in the comments is extra groce.

Date: 2010-09-15 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meleth.livejournal.com
There are a lot of really great comments. And then she responds to them and I am filled with rage. I sincerely hope she gets uninvited from Wiscon.

Date: 2010-09-15 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maevele.livejournal.com
I don't think wiscon has a policy for what to do when your guest of honor acts like an asshole in this way. I don't think such a policy has ever been needed. We can't look to other local cons, since My other local con is Madcon, and they apparently book assholes on purpose, since their GoH is harlan.

Date: 2010-09-15 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tacky-tramp.livejournal.com
Do they need a policy? Like, is it not common sense to say, "Oh, hey, it turns out that this person doesn't share our values and if we honor her we will make a lot of people feel unsafe"?

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