dammit

Oct. 30th, 2008 05:48 pm
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Can we stop talking about "Wealth" and the redistribution of such, and maybe talk about "Poverty" and the elimination thereof? Because you people are framing it wrong.

Date: 2008-10-30 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shana-etel.livejournal.com
Yes. Thank you.
The Pubs make me so mad with their talk of freeloading losers seeking handouts. Of course when I explicitly laid out my own situation and participation in entitlement programs they all just back off and say I'm not the kind of person their panties are in a bunch about.

Fucking hypocrites!

Date: 2008-10-30 11:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com
But elimination of poverty is such hard work compared to redistributing wealth!

Plus, how can we talk about poverty if we don't center the discussion on privilege?

Date: 2008-10-30 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maevele.livejournal.com
see, I really wish that Edwards' affair didn't mean we had to stop talking about poverty/class/privilege.

Date: 2008-10-30 11:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com
Yeah, conversations and activism and legislation to eliminate poverty need to be happening and not stop happening until poverty's eliminated.

And that also means addressing other factors that make poverty more likely - like race, gender, gender identity, disability, and so on. Not addressing them separately, or as side effects or symptoms or anything, but head on.

Date: 2008-10-31 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maevele.livejournal.com
yeah, it's much harder to have a little one liner soundbite about actual poverty. And I'm probably a damn commie for evenn thinking poverty is a problem.

Date: 2008-10-31 01:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lisaquestions.livejournal.com
If you're a commie, I'm a commie, komrade.

Date: 2008-10-30 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lady-alyria.livejournal.com
Everyone knows people are only poor because they are lazy and don't want to work hard like I did to get daddy's company. I had to kiss his ass for 20 years, waiting for that fucker to die. I deserve everything I have.

Date: 2008-10-31 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maevele.livejournal.com
Exactly! I know the only reason we're poor is because we're lazy! Just cause the husband works 55 hour weeks doesn't mean I shouldn't be out waiting tables when he gets home!

Date: 2008-10-31 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittikattie.livejournal.com
But the poor clearly are that way becuase they don't have any money and they want yours. Why should you help the poor? I'ts not like Jesus said "Stuff you don't do for the least among y'all, y'all don't do for me"!

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